MAGNO’S BULGING MAIL SACK: RYAN GARCIA, THE P4P DEBATE, BOXING DOUBLE specifications

MAGNO'S BULGING MAIL SACK: RYAN GARCIA, THE P4P DEBATE, BOXING DOUBLE STANDARDS

right here we’re, graced with the probability to look an extra Thursday and the privilege of taking a gander at my gloriously bulbous sack. So, ready yourself for yet another gooey, salty money shot of certainty, aimed without delay into the eyes and ear holes of boxing’s purveyors of lack of understanding. This week, we have questions/comments related to Ryan Garcia, the pound-for-pound debate, and boxing double specifications revisited.

Ryan Garcia

whats up Paul.

KingRy looked like the real deal towards Campbell. i love that he confirmed some guts and a few gumption, too, via getting off the canvas. What say you about what we saw on Saturday?

— Damon

whats up Damon.

I bear in mind getting curb stomped by boxing specialists just a few years lower back after I stated Garcia turned into going to be a star and now, after Saturday’s win, comes the wave of overrating Ryan Garcia, simply as the wave of underrating him recedes. 

I plan on getting curb stomped now for asserting that he is nonetheless very an awful lot a 22-12 months-ancient work in growth. he’s obtained outstanding equipment, however continues to be young and developing. There are exploitable holes in his game in the mean time. That lapse he had against Campbell would’ve been the end of him by using one of the vital other desirable canine. Campbell is respectable, but has always been a high 2nd tier man, a “commonplace” presence. once more, Garcia is 22 and Campbell became an excellent developmental battle for him, a person who was going to push, but who wasn’t able to pushing too hard.

but individuals deserve to pump the brakes on this “who’s next” stuff. they may be everywhere social media speakme Tank, Teo, Haney. Do they remember what sport they are talking about? None of those fights are going to take place any time quickly. 2023 should be would becould very well be a conservative name on after they may take place. meanwhile, we’re taking a look at Commey and Gamboa for Garcia and, if team Garcia feels above all froggy, Jorge Linares. there may be a lot of money in all of those lightweights and Golden Boy, specially, after losing Canelo, may be trying to develop Garcia’s company and milk him for so long as feasible. They are not trying to put him in in opposition t a killer who may additionally cost them every little thing with one punch. 

i like Garcia and his abilities, but he’s nonetheless a kid and a work in growth. there’s nothing wrong with treating him that manner and waiting on the truly big stuff for later.

Pound-for-Pound Gripes

Paul,

chuffed holidays and you do a superb job for boxing fanatics! Let’s talk pound for pound to end the 2020 yr. My true 10 pound for pound doesn’t encompass a heavyweight since the list turned into developed on account of the heavyweights. If quite a lot of retailers include the massive boys then it’s an illustration that they don’t understand the rest about boxing!

Terence Crawford – 135 King, undisputed at a hundred and forty and has stopped each 147 fighter he’s confronted, ample mentioned.

Canelo Alvarez – Dope cheat, catchweight and rehydration King but if you’re no longer cheating then you definately don’t seem to be trying. How can Canelo not stop Matthew Hatton, Mosley, Cotto, Chavez Jr, Jacobs, Trout, Lara however go to a hundred seventy five and stop Sergey. Dope cheat but awesome resume. last battle towards Callum Smith he gave the impression of a body builder…. It’s a shaggy dog story.

Artur Beterbiev – Very decent fighter but is already 35 years historic.

Errol Spence – Unified champ at 147 but is in duck season against Terence Crawford. He’ll drop as a result of he doesn’t wish to fight Crawford and may get comfortably dealt with if he fights Canelo.

Jermell Charlo – Unified champion and fighter of the year and could possibly be as excessive as #3.

Naoya Inoue – He’s decent but now not many americans on this continent even know this dude.

Josh Taylor – impressive fighter however will be demonstrated by Jose Ramirez.

Juan Estrada – Very decent fighter.

Teofimo Lopez- no longer pretty much as good as he thinks he is…..just wait, he’ll get his ass kicked at a hundred and forty.

Vasyl Lomachenko – Fought the wrong battle against Teofimo Lopez.

I’d love to hear your innovations. chuffed New yr!

— Meredith Miller

hey Meredith.

Yikes, There are some issues I actually, definitely disagree with in your list. 

often, I take umbrage with the Canelo burial. “Dope cheat” is relatively harsh. He confirmed nice for clenbuterol– one time. He had hint quantities, now not truly according to performance bettering use and then demonstrated clear in a hair follicle check presently after that, relatively a good deal confirming that what he had in his device changed into due to accidental ingestion. 

I also feel declaring a person a “dope cheat” as a result of physique and/or efficiency is a real slippery slope. We reside in the true world and need to understand that there’s a beautiful respectable opportunity that a lot and loads of our favourite (and never-so-favorite) combatants are up to a few shady stuff. 

As for the catchweight king stuff, smartly, I in reality did not have too plenty of an issues considering the fact that the “calls for” have been basically only 1 or two kilos  and all of us recognize opponents compete well below their natural weights, anyway. I suppose the catchweight stuff become just a power factor, a contractual pissing contest, and never something that would give him any variety of area. unpleasant, however now not unsafe. and that i haven’t any issue in anyway with rehydration clauses. If a fighter plans on putting on some loopy quantity of weight post-weigh-in to provide himself an edge, then his plans do deserve to be thwarted. 

All in all, I simply believe you’re being way too harsh on the one guy basically coming closest to doing things the right way within the current demanding when it comes to risk vs. reward and legacy constructing. 

My different disagreements are minimal. i will be able to in fact see what you might be speakme about with all of them. I do not think Spence is “ducking” Crawford. business and satisfaction are retaining them aside and making Spence feel like he’s received an higher hand that he can’t hand over. Boxing is barely fucked up like that and i have zero doubt that Crawford/Arum can be appearing the identical method if they held the upper hand.

And Jermell Charlo as Fighter of the 12 months? enjoyable. I don’t agree, but i admire the outdoor-the-boxing considering.

Double requirements, Revisited

bring your double requirements article. comparing GGG and Wilder are two completely different things. You comparing apples to oranges. One person saying they want that on their listing “a physique” and an extra asserting they “may trap it”. When guy is a one punch knockout machine at 6’6 215lbs or extra. The different one’s a cumulative puncher at a hundred and sixty lb. 

Lomachenko came out and observed in a different way about his loss after the so-called “bribery” observation. yes, i believed Loma lost that fight. 

And black opponents aren’t held to a special average handiest to your opinion and the opinion of some people that are evidently ignorant.

— SSLVNV

hello letters man.

neatly, the fact that you felt compelled to leap to the defense of white combatants sort of proves that there is a double normal. I do not keep in mind any emails from you defending any non-white fighters. What I wrote moved you, even though, in order that reaction is a telling signal.

which you can are attempting to rationalize why one man announcing relatively a great deal the identical issues supposed whatever distinctive, but i’m living within the real world. And, once more, just making an attempt to make these rationalizations proves my point.

If we want to play that online game, then we are able to effortlessly rationalize what Golovkin and Lomachenko referred to as being extra insidious than what Wilder mentioned. 

If we seem on the numbers and put some historical viewpoint in the back of it, one-punch heavyweight KO artists are infinitely much less likely to kill an opponent than a “cumulative puncher” at a decrease weight. simply appear on the opponents who’ve died in the ring. what number of heavyweights are among them? Plus, Golovkin saying that he may “capture” upon the possibility to kill an opponent changed into geared toward a selected adult– a corridor of Famer– whereas Wilder spoke in generalities.

As for the Lomachenko conspiracy theory stuff. i’d a lot opt for somebody like Wilder, who says crazy shit and sticks by using it, over somebody who adjustments his phrases (but no longer definitely his declare) after his individuals inform him how poorly his nonsense is being acquired. Honesty has its personal the Aristocracy, although it be an honesty in response to silly nonsense.

So, yeah, I dangle enterprise on my take. there’s a double ordinary in boxing.

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